Tic-Tech: FW: Tic-Tech: AOL Tunnels Will Be Blocked

From: John Keithly (jkeithly@halcyon.com)
Date: Sat Jan 06 2001 - 20:42:19 PST

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    --- TIC-TECH message:
    Here's something that might help with understanding what
    I'm guessing Judy McNamee (SSD Computer Operations) is
    acting upon.

    (the URL below is a two-liner, use both lines - ma)

    http://www.securiteam.com/securityreviews/
    The_risks_of_using_an_AOL_client_behind_a_firewall.html

    What's not so clear to me is why this action is being taken
    so suddenly now. After all, this security weakness has been
    published to the Internet as far back as 1998.

    I guess I just don't have a warm fuzzy when things happen
    without any prior dialogue such as this decision and the
    recent prior announcement of a new REQUIRED sole source
    vendor for purchasing unmanaged switches.

    Just my two cents here ... maybe my biorhythm needs tweaking... :)

    I do STRONGLY support the Les Foltos proposal, first suggested
    by Mark Ahlness, that seems to encourage more face-to-face
    dialogue amongst Tic-Tech folks--I certainly prefer cooperative
    management practices. Although, I can recognize the necessity
    at times for emergency actions I would like to think they should
    not be the norm.

      --John Keithly
        jkeithly@halcyon.com
        Ballard High School
        Tech Support

    -----Original Message-----
    From: McNamee, Judy [mailto:JMCNAMEE@seattleschools.org]
    Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:36 AM
    To: TIC-TECH@tic.ssd.k12.wa.us
    Subject: Tic-Tech: FW: Tic-Tech: AOL Tunnels Will Be Blocked

    --- TIC-TECH message:
    I'm forwarding a response I just sent to John Keithly because I'm sure
    others will be interested in the additional information.

    Thanks,
    Judy

    -----Original Message-----
    From: McNamee, Judy
    Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 8:39 AM
    To: 'John Keithly'
    Subject: RE: Tic-Tech: AOL Tunnels Will Be Blocked

    I'm afraid I won't be able to answer all your questions this time. I'm not
    an AOL user, so I don't know all the applications they have available, or
    how each of them is implemented. However, I suspect that blocking the tunnel
    will block all the AOL applications, including the standard AOL client. I
    know for sure that it will block the AOL@School application, and I expect
    that it will block Instant Messaging. Whether AOL web-based email will be
    affected depends on whether they use tunneling for email access. Someone
    with an AOL account will have to test that to see if it works.
    It's unfortunate that AOL has chosen to implement some or all of its
    services via tunneling, because the tunnel represents a terrific security
    risk. Information we have been receiving indicates that many major companies
    are blocking the AOL tunneling because of the risk. Perhaps AOL will modify
    their implementation at some point in the future.
    Thanks,
    Judy

    -----Original Message-----
    From: John Keithly [mailto:jkeithly@halcyon.com]
    Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 7:01 PM
    To: Judy McNamee
    Subject: RE: Tic-Tech: AOL Tunnels Will Be Blocked

    Which AOL tunneling client are you referring to here?
    Are you speaking of AOL Instant Messaging?

    Or is there something else that will be affected that
    I'm not aware of?

    Although your technical comments are clearly stated
    it would be especially beneficial if you could explain
    the consequences of your actions in plain (non-technical)
    English.

    I'd particularly like to know what services will be
    curtailed that will affect our clients.

    Thanks
    --John
    -----Original Message-----
    From: McNamee, Judy [mailto:JMCNAMEE@seattleschools.org]
    Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 12:15 PM
    To: TIC-TECH@tic.ssd.k12.wa.us
    Subject: Tic-Tech: AOL Tunnels Will Be Blocked

    --- TIC-TECH message:
    Hello,
    Effective immediately, AOL tunnels through the district's firewall will be
    blocked. The reason for the block is that the tunnels represent a severe
    security risk, essentially bypassing all security provided by the district
    firewall and opening district computers to unrestricted access from outside.

    Blocking of AOL tunneling means that AOL clients cannot be used inside the
    district network.

    Thanks,
    Judy

    ------------------------------------------------------
    Judy McNamee
    Manager, Computer Operations
    Seattle Public Schools
    Voice: 206-252-0306
    Fax: 206-252-0301
    jmcnamee@seattleschools.org
    -------------------------------------------------------

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