RE: tictech: why it just sits there...

From: Wes (wfelty@gte.net)
Date: Wed Apr 30 2003 - 18:16:04 PDT

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    -tictech message:

    Well, I have another server that I use as a file server for installing
    software named "SIngFS" that has a Share called "Software". I have an
    account on that server as "wfelty". When I'm on my CWS, I just Right-Click
    on My Computer and go down to "Map Network Drive. I list the Drive Folder
    as "\\SIngFS\Software". I also click on the "logon as another user" and
    enter my Logon name and password for the server "SIngFS". The Folder
    "Software" from the File Server pops right up and I have the same rights in
    "Software" that I has when I was logged onto "SIngFS". And, I can
    checkmark the box to always make this connection whenever I log onto my
    CWS. And, to boot, "SIngFS" is a WinNT 4.0 Server.

    And when I'm NOT on my CWS, I NEVER use SeattleSchools.org Domain. I put
    most of my computers on common WorkGroups, so I can just go to Network
    Neighborhood and see the other shares, be they Folders or Printers.

    The only "advantage" that I can see at all for using the SeattleSchools.org
    Domain is to be able to click on Outlook 2000 and get directly into your
    e-mail. But, I do NOT consider this to be an advantage. Anyone who can
    sit down at your computer can get into your e-mail with no
    challenge. Downtown, they consider this a "desirable feature". If I have
    a minute of physical access to your computer, rather it is turned on or
    off, I can have your e-mail account (and everything else in your Doc's and
    system), within a day or two.).

    -Wes Felty
    wfelty@gte.net

    At 10:03 PM 4/29/2003 -0700, you wrote:
    >-tictech message:
    >
    >Hello Tic-Techers,
    >
    >I would be interested to hear more about how to access shares as Mark and
    >Devin refer to in point number three. I've been completely unable to do
    >this as long as one is logged onto the seattleschools.domain. What's the
    >process??
    >
    >*** tony
    >
    >Tony Hand
    >Technology Coordinator
    >Nathan Hale High School
    >tghand@seattleschools.org
    >
    >For some reason my original message was truncated or changed slightly, so
    >here is the correct ending to the email:
    >
    >"Now I know not everyone needs the reminder to keep their computer safe,
    but
    >to keep data and the network safe, the machines have to lock frequently."
    >
    >Devin Fisher
    >dmfisher@seattleschools.org
    >Van Asselt Elementary
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Fisher, Devin
    >Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 12:56 PM
    >To: tic-tech
    >Subject: RE: tictech: why it just sits there...
    >
    >
    >-tictech message:
    >
    >As a policy, only number 2 and number 4 exist.
    >
    >1. Speaking in general terms, you can have your analyst set up any printer
    >you want to it, if that printer is accessible (ie: if it is on a phonenet
    >network, nothing is going to happen).
    >
    >2. As with software, you can be trained to install software. All you have
    to
    >do is have someone in your school take the training class for CWS. As far
    as
    >I know it is open to all staff members capable of passing the test. If you
    >have more than a year of decent computer usage behind you, you should be
    >able to pass the test.
    >
    >3. Also, if I remember correctly, you can have your analyst set up a share
    >to access your server. I do not see a problem with that. In fact, if they
    >can set it up in global profile form they won't even need to do anything to
    >your actual computer. As long as your student work is on an accessible
    >server, you should be able to have that done.
    >
    >4. The last component is not entirely true. You're computer is 'locked'
    >every 10 minutes. The difference between being locked and being logged off
    >is 180 degrees. To log off you have to close every program and save all
    >data. On top of that you have to log back in to get back to your work. When
    >your computer is locked, all it does is throw up a screen with a password
    >and username prompt, which can be accessed by pressing ctrl alt del at any
    >time and choosing "Lock Computer". Having your computer lock every ten
    >minutes is a necessity, in my opinion since the district is not really able
    >to evaluate everyone's situation and tailor a locking time suitable to
    their
    >needs or location. Everything on your account is vunerable if your computer
    >is not locked or logged off. Any student, faculty, or parent can access
    your
    >data that is not individually password protected. Now I know not everyone
    >needs the reminder to keep their computer safe, but to keep data and the
    >network safe, the mac!
    >
    >Devin Fisher
    >dmfisher@seattleschools.org
    >Van Asselt Elementary
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Mark Ahlness [mailto:mahlness@attbi.com]
    >Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 6:32 PM
    >To: tic-tech
    >Subject: tictech: why it just sits there...
    >
    >
    >-tictech message:
    >
    >Hi all,
    >Just in case anyone cares about this sort of thing, my teacher workstation
    >(CWS) hasn't been used in a few weeks. Administrators tracking this are
    >certainly aware of whose machines have been on and whose have not, so I
    >figured it might be a good idea to let people know why, at least in my
    case:
    >
    >1) I cannot print to the printer in my classroom from it.
    >2) I cannot install or upgrade any software on it.
    >3) It cannot access our local server, student work, launcher web pages,
    etc.
    >4) It logs me off every ten minutes.
    >
    >Each of these reasons is worthy of a much longer discussion, but I'll spare
    >you. Those using their CWS machines regularly have certainly had their
    >computer use and teaching behavior shaped and modified by these
    limitations.
    >I only hope the above issues are being addressed by those setting policy.
    >And, more importantly, I hope the impact of these policies on classroom
    >teachers (and their students!) is being closely watched and evaluated.
    >
    >I have a personal laptop on my desk which gets the job done just fine.
    >
    >Mark Ahlness
    >mahlness@attbi.com
    >Arbor Heights
    >
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