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I agree with John about individual accounts. Students who are in the
Infotech classes are all given individual accounts. I can usually monitor
student and printing jobs and see who has a lot to print and catch it before
a lot of paper is wasted. I can also tell who logged on and who is doing
things on the network that they shouldn't be doing either. It is part of the
security of the network
There is a way to put all the students into the system without typing each
one in one by one. Bob Boswell, who is now retired, was able to do this
while he was at Mercer Middle School. Course, I didn't learn how to do this
before he retired, but I bet he has it written down somewhere, I can always
check if anyone is interested.
Peggy Soong Yaplee
Infotech Teacher
Cleveland High School
psoong@cks.ssd.k12.wa.us
-----Original Message-----
From: John Keithly [mailto:jkeithly@halcyon.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:10 PM
To: TIC-TECH@tic.ssd.k12.wa.us
Subject: Tic-Tech: A Better Proxy Solution (Was Slow Internet Access
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I don't think the school district web server nor
the N2H2 server make any determination as to whom
they are serving. But they could. For example, staff/faculty
elevated access rights to the Internet could be contingent
on the same logon/password which we use to gain access
to the district email server.
As for student logons, as you say, it would presently
be more difficult to distinguish what access rights to
give them since few students have individual logon/password
privileges except for those attending e.g. high school
business classes. However, I do believe setting up
individual student accounts should be a goal for our
district since it does have a number of distinct advantages
not the least of which is the ability to individually
audit each student's computer activities. In my experience
the ability to audit activities does tend to make students
much more responsible in using their time on computers.
Setting up individual student accounts is an onerous task
and may not be an acceptable chore without adequate local
technical staff but it can also give students individual
folders for their files and it does give them the ability
to share information in electronic fashion more easily than
as an anonymous "nobody".
--John Keithly
Ballard High School
206.252.1043
jkeithly@halcyon.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Peterson, Bruce [mailto:bfpeterson@seattleschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:37 AM
To: 'jkeithly@halcyon.com'
Subject: RE: Tic-Tech: Update On Slow Internet Access
John-different permissins and access through bess for teachers, staff and
students sounds great but wouldn't that require discrete student, staff and
teacher logins? I have computers in my classroom that I and the students
both use. How would bess know that the computer was being operated by staff
or student without the login and then the questions comes about
administering student logins. We at Meany do not have individual student
accounts (or for that matter a full time technical staff). Is there
something that bess has that might avoid the student id question?
Bruce Peterson
-----Original Message-----
From: John Keithly [mailto:jkeithly@halcyon.com]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:24 PM
To: TIC-TECH@tic.ssd.k12.wa.us
Subject: Tic-Tech: Update On Slow Internet Access
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Yes, I agree with you on both counts, Roberta.
However, I continue to have concerns about using
the N2H2 filtering service in its present form.
I find it very difficult to accept that nearly
everyone in the district is subject to the same
filtering criteria. At the very least I would think
there should be separate filtering criteria for school
staff and students. Better but more difficult would
be separate criteria for high school, middle school, and
elementary school students.
Setting separate filtering specifications wouldn't
improve the bandwidth issue but it would make the
filtering process more appropriate to those
affected--which is nearly every user in the district
with an Internet connection. I am assuming that the N2H2
people can setup separate staff and student filtering
criteria based on Windows NT logon data--at least this
is how MS Proxy Server works.
--John Keithly
Ballard Tech Support
206.252.1043
jkeithly@halcyon.com
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