RE: tictech: DWA comments

From: Peterson, Bruce (bfpeterson@seattleschools.org)
Date: Fri Mar 14 2003 - 09:32:14 PST

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    -tictech message:

    I think the reward and challenge of correct spelling is in the ability to
    spell a word correctly when one doesn't have a computer available. Say in an
    interview when your interviewer asks you to write a paragraph about the
    difficulties of spelling.
    I do believe that we do our students a disservice by not addressing spelling
    and depending entirely on spellcheck. Using spellcheck in an effort to edit
    (step 4 Writing Process)in an untimed project is probably a good thing.
    Bruce Peterson
    Meany MS
    bfpeterson@seattleschools.org

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Graham Ford [mailto:fordgj@u.washington.edu]
    Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:18 PM
    To: tictech@learningspace.org
    Subject: Re: tictech: DWA comments

    -tictech message:

    I am all for using technology and testing students in "real world"
    conditions. However I think one major sticking point relates to the
    so-called digital divide. I worked last summer for Giant Campus and it
    gave me the opportunity to work closely with wealthier children from
    Bellevue, one kid was dropped off in a Ferrari. In the SPS, I work at
    Highland Park Elementary in West Seattle. I have even toured a variety
    of Washington D.C. schools and there is no school in Seattle that can
    compare with some of the lack of access to technology I saw in some of
    the D.C. schools. My own experiences have given me first-hand
    knowledge of the incredible disparity that exists in the area of
    computer literacy.

    The use of the word "assessment" in the name of the DWA says a lot. It
    is part of a greater scheme that is making public education an
    increasingly more competitive environment, be it competition between
    students for acceptance into programs or competition between schools
    for funds. This is a writing test, and the dangerous side affect of
    something such as a spellchecker is that the results are skewed towards
    students with greater access to technology.

    For educated adults using a spellchecker is trivial, just like using a
    calculator. But how does it look from the perspective of a child?
    What if we were to go to the other extreme, and compare it to taking a
    college level standardized linear algebra test in which students are
    allowed to use Matlab? We can say "in the real world mathematicians
    use computers and software such as Mathematica, Matlab and Maple all
    the time," but only some students would be proficient at programming in
    Matlab. This is just another divide at a different level, where some
    students would have used and mastered the software and some have not.

    It's sad that we have to remove perfectly good tools from such tests,
    but it would be unfair to further set back schools and students that
    are already struggling.

    Graham Ford
    Network Administrator
    Highland Park Elementary
    fordgj@u.washington.edu

    On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 01:21 PM, Fisher, Devin wrote:

    > -tictech message:
    >
    > I'm not a teacher, but I do understand some of the problems with how
    > technology (everyone must remember paper and pencils are technology,
    > albeit
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